Dear partners,
Next Tuesday 25/02 there is a one and a half hour time slot for WP11. It
is scheduled from 9:00 to 10:30, although the current agenda indicates
11:00-12:30. Augustin asked to swap time slots with WP10. This is an
opportunity to go over the current status of the tasks and work on the
roadmap for the second year. Also we should address if and how we
interact with the other WP including the research programs. As an agenda
I would propose the following where each task leader drives the discussion:
09:00 - 9:15: WP11 overview (CETIC)
09:15 - 09:30: T11.1 (CETIC)
09:30 - 09:45: T11.2 (CEA)
09:45 - 10:00: T11.3 (LEO)
10:00 - 10:15: T11.4 (SAP)
10:15 - 10:30: Discussion and conclusions
Best regards,
Philippe
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Dear partners,
I thought you might be interested in this effort by the Cloud Security
Alliance in the area of continuous certification.
Best regards,
Philippe
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Sujet : Continuous Audit Metrics Working Group
Date : Fri, 14 Feb 2020 18:15:20 +0200
De : Alain Pannetrat <apannetrat(a)cloudsecurityalliance.org>
Dear colleagues,
Apologies for sending out a "bulk" email. I thought it was the easiest
way for me to reach out to you and share information about an
initiative we are launching, which should interest you.
CSA is building the very first "Continuous Certification" scheme in the
industry. In the context of this effort, the Cloud Security Alliance is
launching a new initiative dedicated to the definition of security
attributes and metrics associated with the control objectives defined
within our Cloud Control Matrix (CCM), the CSA Metrics Working Group.
We are now seeking the help of cloud customers, cloud providers,
security tool vendors, auditors and all relevant experts in order to
define the very first industry-wide catalogue of security attributes and
metrics for continuous auditing.
To learn more, you can read our whitepaper here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hFsmWglIjrbHKJzRCGaOcMAv6trftnMfdZAvasr…
As we typically do, we will create a working group, and hold regulars
online conference calls in the next few months to collect input from all
volunteers with a view of producing a deliverable by the end of the year.
We'd be happy if you can join us! Do not hesitate to share this call
with your colleagues as well.
Best regards,
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Dear partners,
Please find attached the review presentation template. I suggest to
review the template during tomorrow's call at 11:00 CET so that task
leaders can provide the contents for their activities.
For the agenda, I suggest:
- review of the review presentation template with respect to WP11 tasks.
- access to standards mentionned in D11.1
- CyberCert workshop status
Best regards,
Philippe
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Sujet : Re: [SPARTA - bodies.executive-board] Slides for the review
Date : Tue, 11 Feb 2020 13:36:33 +0000
De : LEMESLE Augustin <augustin.lemesle(a)cea.fr>
Pour : bodies.executive-board(a)internal.sparta.eu
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Dear WP leaders,
Please find attached the new template for the review. Only minor modification were made, I removed KPIs and added the missing Roadmap slides.
It can be found on the SVN and also on Stackfield. I hope we can have some preliminary slides by 14th February and final version by 21th.
Best regards,
Augustin.
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Dear all,
To answer some of your concerns and for clarification, we thought of the 1 person per organisation as the PO told us the room would be a 40 person room. Since indeed it might limit interactions and Q&A, we will try to see with the PO for bigger premises or some alternative solution as Michael or Hervé mentioned. For that, we would need a list of all people attending the review, I would suggest to try and compile it at WP level, and we would discuss with the PO with this list.
On achievements slides, I did not want to fill the template with empty achievement slides but I expect more than one slide for achievement. What I was thinking of was a quick look at project management on which they will already have other material but still seems good to mention and more lengthy focus on achievements (indeed with one slide it was not obvious). I am open to suggestion on this and on the content we could put in "Achievements" slides. What would you see in this?
On other points:
- @Michael: on the agenda, first session WP1 and WP2 (+ WP14) may be joint and we need to discuss this but other session will stay per WP only.
- @Jan: I'd say just not to focus on the summary orally
- My bad for the Roadmap slide will be added in the final version, I'm open to suggestion on possible content also.
- Demonstration is indeed only for programs.
Best regards,
Augustin.
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Objet : Re: [SPARTA - bodies.executive-board] Slides for the review
Dear Augustin,
I agree with many of Michael's points.
The slides seem very mechanical. On one hand, they do not easily reflect the actual scientific production for a program. On the other hand, they seem to provide a rather abstract projection of the governance activity, which is more "project management", but not really governance per se.
I also share the worry about content. I am wondering about attendance of at least task leaders for CAPE. It seems to me that the best would be to limit the number of people *in the room* per period, e.g. for CAPE have only the 13 partners participating in the review, and the others wait in an adjacent room. It will create some in/out confusion in the room, but might allow for more interaction with the reviewers if needed. At the same time I can understand doubts about the actual feasibility of my proposal.
Best regards,
Hervé
Le 04/02/2020 à 13:39, Friedewald, Michael a écrit :
> Dear Agustin,
>
> according to the last agenda that was discussed there will be joint presentations of more than one WP (WP 1, 2, 14 / WP 8, 9 / WP 10, 11, 12). Your slides do not seem to fit for that purpose.
>
> Apart from that the presentation seem to be quite formalistic: Lots of
> slides on KPI, submitted deliverables, formal risks, etc. – but only
> one slide on “Achievements”. Could you please elaborate how many
> slides you expect in total and where the focus should be. In my
> experience reviewers are more interested in content …
>
> Could you also elaborate a little bit about the limitation of participants in the review meeting. I do understand that space is limited for such a big consortium like SPARTA.
> However, if we are going to discuss CONTENT with the reviewers it might be necessary to have at least some people available. For instance: Since I am not a legal scholar I can maybe give an overview of the results but when it comes to Q&A I would be rather soon at my limits and would probably give the word to the experts. Otherwise the impression that we give might be a bit strange. Having them stand-by outside the room and asking them inside for the relevant work packages might not be very convenient but a possibility.
>
> Best
> Michael
>
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>
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> Competence Center Emerging Technologies Fraunhofer-Institut für
> System- und Innovationsforschung ISI Breslauer Straße 48 | 76139
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>
> Ochs, C.; Friedewald, M.; Hess, T.; Lamla, J. (Hrsg.): Die Zukunft der
> Datenökonomie. Digitales Leben zwischen Geschäftsmodell, Kollektivgut
> und Verbraucherschutz. Wiesbaden: Springer VS. 2019 (Medienkulturen
> im digitalen Zeitalter).
> https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9783658275105
>
> Friedewald, M. (Hrsg.): Privatheit und selbstbestimmtes Leben in der
> Digitalen Welt: Interdisziplinäre Perspektiven auf aktuelle
> Herausforderungen des Datenschutzes. Wiesbaden: Springer Vieweg. 2018
> https://www.springer.com/de/book/9783658213831
>
> M. Friedewald et al. (eds.): Privacy, Security and Surveillance:
> Citizens’ Perspectives. London/New York: Routledge. 2017 (Open Access)
> https://www.routledge.com/Surveillance-Privacy-and-Security-Citizens-P
> erspectives/Friedewald-Burgess-Cas-Bellanova-Peissl/p/book/97811386492
> 48
>
> Am 03.02.20, 16:06 schrieb "bodies.executive-board im Auftrag von LEMESLE Augustin" <bodies.executive-board-bounces(a)server.sparta.eu<mailto:bodies.executive-board-bounces@server.sparta.eu> im Auftrag von augustin.lemesle(a)cea.fr<mailto:augustin.lemesle@cea.fr>>:
>
> Dear WP leaders,
>
> For the review, on 28th you can find attached a proposition for templates for the WP presentation. As a quick timeline before the review:
>
> · Feedback w.r.t. proposed templates until 7/02
>
> · Preliminary version of the slides sent to coordination until 14/02
>
> · Final slide version until 21/02
>
> For reminder, we expect 1 person per organisation maximum at the review.
>
> Best regards,
> Augustin.
>
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Dear WP11 partners,
As you know the SPARTA review will take place on Friday 28/02. The
current meeting room for the review has 40 places maximum. This is why
CEA is suggesting to limit representation at 1 person per partner. CEA
has asked WP leaders to compile a list of participants for each WP: "I
would suggest to try and compile it at WP level, and we would discuss
with the PO with this list".
Could you indicate you presence at the review at
https://cryptpad.fr/poll/#/2/poll/edit/t4Q1FpWa2rnjCOfr3FMy8N7A/ ?
Thank you,
Philippe
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Sujet : Re: [SPARTA - bodies.executive-board] Slides for the review
Date : Wed, 5 Feb 2020 08:34:20 +0000
De : LEMESLE Augustin <augustin.lemesle(a)cea.fr>
Pour : bodies.executive-board(a)internal.sparta.eu
<bodies.executive-board(a)internal.sparta.eu>
Dear all,
To answer some of your concerns and for clarification, we thought of the 1 person per organisation as the PO told us the room would be a 40 person room. Since indeed it might limit interactions and Q&A, we will try to see with the PO for bigger premises or some alternative solution as Michael or Hervé mentioned. For that, we would need a list of all people attending the review, I would suggest to try and compile it at WP level, and we would discuss with the PO with this list.
On achievements slides, I did not want to fill the template with empty achievement slides but I expect more than one slide for achievement. What I was thinking of was a quick look at project management on which they will already have other material but still seems good to mention and more lengthy focus on achievements (indeed with one slide it was not obvious). I am open to suggestion on this and on the content we could put in "Achievements" slides. What would you see in this?
On other points:
- @Michael: on the agenda, first session WP1 and WP2 (+ WP14) may be joint and we need to discuss this but other session will stay per WP only.
- @Jan: I'd say just not to focus on the summary orally
- My bad for the Roadmap slide will be added in the final version, I'm open to suggestion on possible content also.
- Demonstration is indeed only for programs.
Best regards,
Augustin.
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Herve Debar <herve.debar(a)telecom-sudparis.eu>
Envoyé : mardi 4 février 2020 14:49
À : LEMESLE Augustin <augustin.lemesle(a)cea.fr>
Cc : bodies.executive-board(a)internal.sparta.eu
Objet : Re: [SPARTA - bodies.executive-board] Slides for the review
Dear Augustin,
I agree with many of Michael's points.
The slides seem very mechanical. On one hand, they do not easily reflect the actual scientific production for a program. On the other hand, they seem to provide a rather abstract projection of the governance activity, which is more "project management", but not really governance per se.
I also share the worry about content. I am wondering about attendance of at least task leaders for CAPE. It seems to me that the best would be to limit the number of people *in the room* per period, e.g. for CAPE have only the 13 partners participating in the review, and the others wait in an adjacent room. It will create some in/out confusion in the room, but might allow for more interaction with the reviewers if needed. At the same time I can understand doubts about the actual feasibility of my proposal.
Best regards,
Hervé
Le 04/02/2020 à 13:39, Friedewald, Michael a écrit :
> Dear Agustin,
>
> according to the last agenda that was discussed there will be joint presentations of more than one WP (WP 1, 2, 14 / WP 8, 9 / WP 10, 11, 12). Your slides do not seem to fit for that purpose.
>
> Apart from that the presentation seem to be quite formalistic: Lots of
> slides on KPI, submitted deliverables, formal risks, etc. – but only
> one slide on “Achievements”. Could you please elaborate how many
> slides you expect in total and where the focus should be. In my
> experience reviewers are more interested in content …
>
> Could you also elaborate a little bit about the limitation of participants in the review meeting. I do understand that space is limited for such a big consortium like SPARTA.
> However, if we are going to discuss CONTENT with the reviewers it might be necessary to have at least some people available. For instance: Since I am not a legal scholar I can maybe give an overview of the results but when it comes to Q&A I would be rather soon at my limits and would probably give the word to the experts. Otherwise the impression that we give might be a bit strange. Having them stand-by outside the room and asking them inside for the relevant work packages might not be very convenient but a possibility.
>
> Best
> Michael
>
> ---
> Dr. Michael Friedewald
>
> Coordinator ICT Research
> Competence Center Emerging Technologies Fraunhofer-Institut für
> System- und Innovationsforschung ISI Breslauer Straße 48 | 76139
> Karlsruhe
> fon: +49 721 6809-146 (-189, ass.) | fax: +49 721 6809-77-146
> mailto:
> michael.friedewald(a)isi.fraunhofer.de<mailto:michael.friedewald@isi.fra
> unhofer.de>
> https://www.isi.fraunhofer.de
> https://www.forum-privatheit.de
> https://www.dsfa.eu
> https://works.bepress.com/michael_friedewald/
>
>
> Neue Veröffentlichungen:
>
> Ochs, C.; Friedewald, M.; Hess, T.; Lamla, J. (Hrsg.): Die Zukunft der
> Datenökonomie. Digitales Leben zwischen Geschäftsmodell, Kollektivgut
> und Verbraucherschutz. Wiesbaden: Springer VS. 2019 (Medienkulturen
> im digitalen Zeitalter).
> https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9783658275105
>
> Friedewald, M. (Hrsg.): Privatheit und selbstbestimmtes Leben in der
> Digitalen Welt: Interdisziplinäre Perspektiven auf aktuelle
> Herausforderungen des Datenschutzes. Wiesbaden: Springer Vieweg. 2018
> https://www.springer.com/de/book/9783658213831
>
> M. Friedewald et al. (eds.): Privacy, Security and Surveillance:
> Citizens’ Perspectives. London/New York: Routledge. 2017 (Open Access)
> https://www.routledge.com/Surveillance-Privacy-and-Security-Citizens-P
> erspectives/Friedewald-Burgess-Cas-Bellanova-Peissl/p/book/97811386492
> 48
>
> Am 03.02.20, 16:06 schrieb "bodies.executive-board im Auftrag von LEMESLE Augustin" <bodies.executive-board-bounces(a)server.sparta.eu<mailto:bodies.executive-board-bounces@server.sparta.eu> im Auftrag von augustin.lemesle(a)cea.fr<mailto:augustin.lemesle@cea.fr>>:
>
> Dear WP leaders,
>
> For the review, on 28th you can find attached a proposition for templates for the WP presentation. As a quick timeline before the review:
>
> · Feedback w.r.t. proposed templates until 7/02
>
> · Preliminary version of the slides sent to coordination until 14/02
>
> · Final slide version until 21/02
>
> For reminder, we expect 1 person per organisation maximum at the review.
>
> Best regards,
> Augustin.
>
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